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Poster: light into ashes Date: Apr 29, 2010 2:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Garcia on Keyboards?

Jerry may also have played piano in the 9/19/70 To Lay Me Down - quality isn't quite the same, of course! But that's it for him on piano in the acoustic sets - on 9/17 it was just Pigpen.
The American Beauty studio outtake of To Lay Me Down (from around that time) on the So Many Roads box set has Garcia on acoustic & someone else (Pig?) on piano.

I think the E72 Good Lovin' where he starts out on keyboards for a bit isn't an isolated example, I remember Lemieux pointing out another one on the Taper's Section (don't recall which, maybe Paris?), so he might have done it a few times. It's a surprising thing to do, nonetheless.

Otherwise he was strictly a guitar-player live, as far as I remember.
The studio was a different matter - the Jerry box set includes him playing Accidentally Like a Martyr on piano.

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Poster: Jim F Date: Apr 30, 2010 1:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Garcia on Keyboards?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think they did To Lay Me Down on 9/17, 9/18 or 9/19. 9/20 looks like the only one?

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Apr 30, 2010 1:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Garcia on Keyboards?

They did play To Lay Me Down on 9/19/70....but the acoustic set is NOT ON THE ARCHIVE! (Except for the last two songs, on the AUD copy.)

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Poster: SkyDawg Date: Apr 29, 2010 3:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Garcia on Keyboards?

Most certainly it was Pigpen on "To Lay Me Down". Jerry stood up and strummed this song. Jerry never played harmony while singing lead on any song...

I saw them a few months earlier and fail to understand why Dead-Heads assume that Pig could not play keyboards.. He wasn't bad, and I saw him play a nice guitar and harp too..
Pig was talented!

The Jerry organ solo you mention was on 5/25/72 during "Good Lovin" while Jerry's guitar was repaired..

This post was modified by SkyDawg on 2010-04-29 10:11:57

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Apr 29, 2010 9:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Garcia on Keyboards?

For starters, I agree that Pig was a good musician. I really appreciate his swirling organ during the early January '68 Pacific Northwest tour. Particularly during the performances of Clementine. Also during the Europe '72 tour, in spite of his illness, the sound of his organ fills along side Keith's piano is gorgeous! Had he not been an alcoholic, perhaps his skills would have improved and his instrumental contribution would have been more significant over the years?

I'm enclined to believe that it is Jerry on the piano during the acoustic performances of To Lay Me Down on 9/18-20/70. Not that that Pig was not capable, but the style of the playing seem quite Garcia-like to me. Pigpens's effort and contributions during the 1970 acoustic sets is quite inconsistent. Also, I seem to recall GhostofPig, who attended these Fillmore East shows, also saying that Jerry was on the keys for those numbers.

As far as Jerry on the organ. I'm not convinced that it was do to a broken string or other guitar repair. lightintoashes is correct, Jerry played Pig's organ on at least one other performance during the Europe '72 tour. The fact that I missed it shows just how multi-layered the music from those performances is. Every time you re-listen to those shows you hear new things you didnt here before.

Jerry also plays the organ during the Good Lovin' intro from the first-set Lyceum performance on 5/23/72...

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1972-05-23.sbd.unknown.16089.shnf

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 29, 2010 9:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How little I know...

Was just thinking if this had been one of Lou's trivia questions, I would have been completely at a loss...I had no idea Jerry did in fact play keybds "live" with the DEAD (thought he might have in some other context, some side project perhaps, but not with the Boys).

And it's early era trivia too...sad to think I really have to do some homework to keep up around here; naw, probably just keep contributing idle chatter and taking up space that otherwise would be taken up by Dire and Bessie.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Apr 29, 2010 9:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How little I know...

my idle chatter alone can take up enough space to contain a stellar nursery

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Apr 29, 2010 11:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Garcia on Keyboards?

It's certainly a debatable question - Garcia or Pig on keys here?
I don't think Garcia's on guitar for sure. It's definitely one player on piano, one on organ, and Weir on electric guitar - no acoustic. To me that means Pigpen & Garcia were sharing keyboard duties, with Garcia doing the simple piano rhythm part. Unless you want to suggest that an unknown guest joined them just to add some organ fills in this song? The organ part is more 'tasteful' than people would usually associate with Pigpen...

Pigpen was playing piano on a number of songs in these late acoustic sets, & doing a nice job too - for instance he's on Truckin' & Brokedown in this set. (One of my favorites is the New Speedway Boogie from 6-13-70, which is an AUD so not very clear, but he's really joining in the jam there!)

Garcia had also played pedal steel on Box of Rain on 9/17, although it's quite hard to hear.